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riot100 · 2008-02-20 10:52:44

Thanks Mark for the UK Subs updates.

Thanks to everyone for their contributions, memories, memorabilia, etc.

Please find an updated list of Crass Gigs below.
Again, any additions, corrections, etc are most welcome.
All the best.

CRASS LIVE:

??/??/77 Huntley Street, London
27/08/77 Audition Nite, Roxy Club, London ?
16/11/77 Action Space Drill Hall, London

25/04/78 White Lion, Puntey Bridge, London
07/05/78 Rock against Racism, Action Space, London
29/09/78 Acklam, Hall, London
22/11/78 Paradiso, Amsterdam, Holland
23/11/78 ?, Dusseldorf, Germany

Early 79 Cambridge Sea Cadets Hall [Jan or Feb]
Early 79 Epping Town Hall
Early 79 Bishops Stortford Triad
??/01/79 The Factory, Manchester
??/01/79 ?, Bradford
26/03/79 Acklam, Hall, London
13/04/79 Gatzbys,Erics, Liverpool
??/04/79 Deptford St James(?) Church Crypt
??/04/79 North London Poly, Holloway Road
11/05/79 Conway Hall, Holburn, London
??/06/79 Ealing Technical College, London
21/06/79 Stonehenge
14/07/79 Hope & Anchor, Islington, London
20/07/79 Co-Op Festival Suite, Birmingham
27/07/79 Colombo St Comm Centre, London
07/08/79 The No. 1 Club, The Pied Bull, Liverpool Rd, London
08/09/79 Conway Hall, Holburn, London
29/09/79 Acklam, Hall, London
17/10/79 Electric Ballroom, London [Never Happened]

07/01/80 Moonlight, London
02/02/80 Conway Hall, London
28/02/80 Digbeth Civic Hall, Birmingham
07/03/80 Moonlight Club, London
08/03/80 Moonlight Club, London
17/04/80 F Club, Leeds
18/04/80 Trucks, Wigan
19/04/80 Nelson Railway Workers Institute, Burnley
20/04/80 Manchester Polytechnic
21/04/80 Albert Hall, Stirling
23/04/80 Astoria, Edinburgh
??/04/80 Plaza, Glasgow ???
24/04/80 Wellington Club, Hull
25/04/80 Ajanta Cinema, Derby
26/04/80 Digbeth Civic Hall, Birmingham
??’05/80 The Fulham Greyhound, London
12/06/80 Circles Club, Swansea
13/06/80 Memorial Hall, Barry
14/06/80 Ashby Community Centre, Southampton
16/06/80 Marshall Rooms, Stroud
17/06/80 Town Hall, Bournemouth
18/06/80 Trinity Hall, Bristol
19/06/80 Civic Hall, Totnes
20/06/80 Abbey Hall, Plymouth
21/06/80 Stonehenge
26/06/80 Original Club, London
07/10/80 Tropical Club, Rochdale
08/10/80 Le Mount Club, Halifax
09/10/80 Blind Institute, Hull
10/10/80 Cleopatras, Huddersfield
11/10/80 Rock Garden, Middlesbrough
13/10/80 Sweatbox, Bradford
15/10/80 Gatesby, Liverpool
16/10/80 Ad Lib Club, Nottingham
17/10/80 Mayflower, Manchester
18/10/80 Nite Club, Edinburgh
19/10/80 Cleator Moor Civic Hall

16/04/81 Queens Hall, Bradford
18/04/81 Labour Hall, Witham
22/04/81 Digbeth Civic Hall, Birmingham
04/06/81 St. Marys Arts Centre, Colchester
05/06/81 Gala Ballroom, Norwich
06/06/81 Worthing Field Place Pavilion
09/06/81 100 Club, London
11/06/81 La Babalu, Ryde I.O.W.
12/06/81 Town Hall, Reading
13/06/81 Pier Ballroom, Hastings
01/07/81 Music Hall, Aberdeen
03/07/81 Trinity Church, Irvine
04/07/81 Lesser City Hall, Perth [ or 04/07/81 Wishart Centre, Dundee]
05/07/81 Lasswade Centre, Edinburgh
04/09/81 Concorde, Brighton
05/09/81 Stowmarket United Reform Church
19/09/81 Sevenoaks Kensing St Ediths Hall
20/09/81 MFM, Northampton
24/09/81 St. Phillips Community Centre, Swansea
25/09/81 Leisure Centre, Caerphilly
27/09/81 St. Barnabus Community Centre, Bristol
28/09/81 Arts Centre, Bridgwater
29/09/81 Fiesta, Plymouth
30/09/81 Marshall Rooms, Stroud
01/10/81 The Grange, Salisbury
12/10/81 Scotland ???
22/10/81 Market Hall, Carlisle
23/10/81 Cleator Moor Civic Hall
24/10/81 ?, Middlesbrough
25/10/81 Marples Club, Sheffield
26/10/81 Town Hall, Todmorden
27/10/81 Trucks, Wigan
28/10/81 ?, Bradford
29/10/81 Blue Coat Rooms, Liverpool
30/10/81 Digbeth Civic Hall, Birmingham
31/10/81 Mayflower, Manchester
??/11/81 Metro, Halifax
18/12/81 Wapping Anarchist Centre
19/12/81 Camden Electric Ballroom, London [Never Happened]
??/12/81 Pied Bull , Islington, London
21/12/81 The Bridge House, Canning Town, London
22/12/81 100 Club, London?? [Might have been White Lion, Putney]
24/12/81 Moonlight Club, West Hampstead

25/02/82 Peppers, Bishops Stortford
26/02/82 Ludwig Youth Club, Welling Garden City
27/02/82 Roadmenders, Northampton
28/04/82 Stoke Tunstall Town Hall
29/04/82 The Crypt, Middlesbrough
30/04/82 Ferry Hill 101 Club, Darlington
??/05/82 Bishops Stortford Triad
01/05/82 The Tower, Hull
02/05/82 Hebdon Bridge Trades Club
03/05/82 Digbeth Civic Hall, Birmingham
04/05/82 The Warehouse, Liverpool
05/05/82 Silvergate Ballroom, Lincoln
06/05/82 Trucks, Wigan
07/05/82 Town Hall, Reading
11/05/82 Town Hall, Crayford
07/09/82 The Grand (or Glen?) Pavilion, Dunfermline
08/09/82 Welfare Hall, Alenton
10/09/82 Lourdes Hall, Dublin, Ireland
11/09/82 Anarchy Centre, Belfast
12/09/82 Anarchy Centre, Belfast
14/09/82 Village Hall, Meifod
15/09/82 Talbot Sandfields Youth Centre
16/09/82 The Preston Centre, Yeovil
17/09/82 St. Georges Hall, Exeter
04/10/82 Leadmill, Sheffield
18/12/82 Zig Zag Club, London
19/12/82 Moonlight, London [Never Happened]

20/09/83 "We demand the future" Festival, Reykjavik, Iceland
??/12/83 ?, Liverpool
??/12/83 ?, Bristol
16/12/83 Digbeth Civic Hall, Birmingham

02/05/84 Marcus Garvey Centre, Nottingham
03/05/84 Cleator Moor Civic Hall
04/05/84 Digbeth Civic Hall, Birmingham
05/05/84 Aigbeth Old Police Station, Liverpool
06/05/84 St. Georges Hall, Exeter
07/05/84 St. Johns Hall, Penzance ?
??/05/84 Glasshouse, London
11/07/84 Colossuem Trecynon, Aberdare

Missing accurate Dates:

77/78 3 more gigs with UK Subs
78 or 79 Gigs in New York, USA
79 Convent Garden, London [with The Epiletics]
79 Maryport, Cumbria [June or July?]
79 or 80 Traceys, Ipswich
80 UEA Barn, Norwich
80 or 81 High Wycombe Multi Racial Centre
81 Bury St. Edmunds
82 Church Village Hall, Dunnington, Worthing
83 Village Hall, North Weald
84 Bingo Hall, London

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thog · 2008-02-20 11:31:43

Not sure of date,the single Youre Already Dead was just out, but there was squat in Islington London (think it may be what is now the Garage).

shiofuki · 2008-02-20 14:14:36

good work! and great you found out - 21/04/80 Albert Hall, Sterling (StIrling BTW) as that was the first time I saw them. Support acts were Poisons and my mate's band, Spiked Copy. It was reviewed in either Sounds or NME, with a photo of their singer, Pogo which made him quite the celeb about town. think the photographer got him mixed up with Steve Igs as they did looked pretty similar and both wore harringtons. I remember that as the next week EVERYONE seemed to be wearing them! Crass singer = fashion icon )

iPat · 2008-02-20 14:39:47

there was a gig at Traceys in Ipswich in 79 or might have been early 80
there was a gig at the 62 club in Aberdeen, i think it was early 80, just before i moved there.
Oct 81 i think is mixed up a bit but its a long time ago for me to recall it all. I dont recall being in Middlesborough on that tour
82?, it went Sheffield, Hallifax, Wigan ill have the dates somewhere so ill look them up

05/05/84 Aigbeth Old Police Station, Liverpool last time i saw them play live, slept through the set.

good work, well done

Scrobezine · 2008-02-20 15:16:27

Well done, must have taken you ages to sort out. Crass played a gig at Maryport in Cumbria 79 think it was either june or July. Was at the Carlisle gig and the 3 Cleatermoor gigs. Wouldn't you have thought Crass themselves would have a gig's played list.

Thanks Riot.

Kevin Coed · 2008-02-20 16:23:22

The Aberdare gig was at the Colossuem Trecynon. Support was Flux and Annie Anxiety.

kvltpunk · 2008-02-20 21:45:03

Yep, too much time on my hands!
This should keep us going for a while...
No doubt errors here but just use this list as a starting point - add and correct where possible.

All the best.

CRASS LIVE:

??/??/77 Huntley Street, London
16/11/77 Action Space Drill Hall, London

29/09/78 Acklam, Hall, London
22/11/78 Paradiso, Amsterdam, Holland
23/11/78 ?, Dusseldorf, Germany

??/01/79 The Factory, Manchester

The book _The Story of Crass_ says the band actually played some gigs in the US, in NYC, in 1978 or 79, no? I was stunned when I read this in Berger's book the 1st time.

Gee Vaucher (from the book, page 93): "I avoided booking the obvious. I said I'm not going to book CBGB's or Max's Kansas City. I booked the Puerto Rican Club and the Polish Club. We did the Puerto Rican Club with James Chance and the Contortions."

[...]

On page 94, in 1978--

Artist Anthony Maccall recalls seeing Crass "in Manhattan -- in SoHo somewhere, I think. I was bowled over by velocity of the music and the no-kidding seriousness of their stage persona. They lined up across the front of the stage in black uniforms with Crass armbands and the Crass logo banner behind them and you were hit by this angry, sonic blitzkrieg whichc ontinued for the duration of the performance without a break."

-Oliver

bangkoksteve · 2008-02-20 23:32:29

Great to see the Gala Ballroom in Norwich on that list, very memorable night. The place was rammed with people. They played Norwich once before that though at the UEA Barn (1980?), they turned up unannounced as support to Poison Girls, great gig again but the crowd was a bit thin on the ground that night. They also did a gig in Bury St Edmunds around 81, can't for the life of me remember the venue. It all kicked off outside though with the local biker crowd......

seitan · 2008-02-21 18:19:42

june 16th 1980 stroud marshall rooms with poison girls, my first EVER gig, and what a way to start

and i only know the date now, as i have the poster of it

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Andy T · 2008-02-21 19:34:14

Yeah, I was going to mention the Stroud gig too. Also that month June 1980 was Stonehenge on the 21st. Also I've got Liverpool - New Erics down for the 26th.

Penny and I were talking a few years ago, remembering lots of gigs and wishing there was a list. Andy Palmer used to handle that side of things and took the book with him down to the West country. Wonder if he still has it?

Nice to see the Rochdale gig from 1980 on there. That was the night Ian Asbury nearly burned my squat down and had the street crawling with police and firemen. Wonder what became of that silly twonk?

shiofuki · 2008-02-21 20:22:02

nice set-up, seitan. well jealous.

Barnsley Burt · 2008-02-21 20:40:00

I saw them in a Church/Village Hall at Dunnington just outside of Worthing I'd guess it was '82 but definitely after the Brighton Concorde gig because I remember being gutted that I missed that one. I wasn't in Barnsley then!

The whole Crass anarcho-punk 'thing' meant so much to me growing up. The Pistols may have kicked off some early rebellion in an eleven year old but Feeding to a 14 year old actually mattered. Some people actually cared. And still do.

Keep going. Great forum. Cheers. xx

JonniM · 2008-02-22 11:10:43

11/05/82 ?, Crayford <<<<< was the town hall

realy good show until andy perked up and said "be careful going home" once out side i/we realised what he meant !!!

No Gsy · 2008-02-25 14:48:06

Hello to everybody - I liked this thread so much that I thought I would take the plunge and make my first posting.

Good move riot 100 - It seems that we all dig ephemera - I thought that it would be a challenge to come up with a piece for each gig - a bit of a long shot I know. Anyway, to get the ball rolling, here are a couple of pieces: Bradford Queens Hall poster and a ticket from the Hebden Bridge Trades Club:

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg11 … ticket.jpg

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg11 … poster.jpg

I have an A3 poster from the Bradford Sweatbox gig - a nice one that - I will scan and post at a later date.

back2front · 2008-02-25 15:29:12

A fascinating challenge No Gsy... be insteresting to see what appears

Scrobezine · 2008-02-25 18:56:02

Great idea No Gsy...Here's my contribution. Poster for the Calisle Market Hall gig, and my ticket for the gig at Cleatermoor Civic Hall 1980

Monk · 2008-03-20 16:46:44

Covent Garden, The Roxy - 30th September 1977

brownjenkin · 2008-03-28 10:22:33

29/04/82 The Crypt, Middlesbrough - think this was actually at the town hall if memory serves

SiddenyPsychoKiller · 2008-03-28 13:18:46

Crass Tickets from Brum 1983 and 1984

JonniM · 2008-04-01 08:12:50

quercusrobur · 2008-04-02 02:16:54

riot100 wrote:
16/11/77 Action Space Drill Hall, London

That was my 17th birthday! That day I went to see Robert calvert (Hawkwind) and Daevid Allen (Gong) doing poetyr readings at battersea Town hall (I think). Daevid Allen was doing another gig later that evening in Camden with Here & Now and offered me and my mate martin a lift in his car to the gig, but we thought he was joking so went home... I also got my next door neighbour to tape a Derek Bailey concert broadcast on radio 3 the same evening...

Monk · 2008-04-02 12:43:46

brownjenkin wrote:
29/04/82 The Crypt, Middlesbrough - think this was actually at the town hall if memory serves

That's correct, the Crypt is underneath the town hall and is still used for gigs.

brownjenkin · 2008-04-02 16:27:49

Monk wrote:
brownjenkin wrote:
29/04/82 The Crypt, Middlesbrough - think this was actually at the town hall if memory serves
That's correct, the Crypt is underneath the town hall and is still used for gigs.

yeah,course it is mate..it was The Dubliners I saw at the town hall above...hazy days.

TonyB · 2008-05-15 10:08:15

17/10/79 Electric Ballroom, London Never Happened
19/12/81 Camden Electric Ballroom, London Never Happened
19/12/82 Moonlight, London Never Happened

MISSING GIGS:
Early 1979 Jan/Feb Cambridge Sea Cadets Hall
Early 1979 Epping Town Hall
Early 1979 Bishops Stortford Triad
April 1979 Deptford St James(?) Church Crypt
April 1979 North London Poly, Holloway Road
About May 1982 Bishops Stortford Triad (Warm Up/Secret gig for release of 'Christ LP')

December 1981 Xmas gigs:Not sure exact dates...But 5 Days In A Row In London (i went to all 5 of em)
Pied Bull , Islington, London
Autonomy Centre Wapping, London
21/12/81 The Bridge House, Canning Town, London
22/12/81 Cant remember where but definately NOT 100 Club, London
24/12/81 Moonlight Club West Hampstead

quercusrobur · 2008-05-15 17:27:51

I'm fairly sure that Wapping Autonmoy Centre gig was Dec 18th 1981, they played under the name of 'Shaved Women' (doing a bit of a Pistols 'SPOTS' thing I think, but I don't think many were fooled..) Main reason i remember the date is that I mentioned to Penny at the Zig zag that it had been exactly one year earlier they've played Wapping...

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